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  • sheepish Top 10 Forum Poster Sunday, March 13, 2011 10:50 PM Reply
    By my count there have been 235 aftershocks magnitude 5.0 or greater, and I have no idea how many smaller aftershocks. Where's that volcano, and what direction is Godzilla going to come from?
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  • FallenArchangel Top 10 Forum Poster Monday, March 14, 2011 7:21 PM Reply
    I think the Shinmoedake volcano is at the south western corner of Japan. Probably closer to South Korea than to where the Nuclear reactor issues are.

    "Shinmoedake is also notable for having been used as a location in the 1967 James Bond film, You Only Live Twice, as the volcano in which the villains' secret rocket base is located."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinmoedake

    The wiki page also has a map, but when I try to copy it, it's just a blank map without the place marker.

    "The volcano is on Kyushu island, about 950 miles from the epicenter of Friday's magnitude 9.0 earthquake, which devastated much of the country's northeastern coast."


    http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2011-03/60095486.jpg
    img src: http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2011-03/60095486.jpg



    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fgw-japan-quake-volcano-20110314,0,2486939.story?track=rss


    http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2011/03/14/alg_shinmoedake_erupts.jpg
    img src: http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2011/03/14/alg_shinmoedake_erupts.jpg



    "Earthquake, tsunami, nuclear plant meltdowns -- as if the people of Japan didn't have enough to cope with, a volcano began erupting Sunday."

    "Hundreds of people were forced to flee when the Shinmoedake volcano on the southern island of Kyushu began spewing ash and boulders."

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2011/03/13/2011-03-13_hundreds_flee_in_japan_after_shinmoedake_volcano_begins_spewing_ash_boulders.html



    http://www.earth-issues.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/article-1351064-0CEF1412000005DC-399_964x1249-790x1024.jpg
    img src: http://www.earth-issues.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/article-1351064-0CEF1412000005DC-399_964x1249-790x1024.jpg




    Latest I heard on the nuclear issue, is that there's been yet another explosion, though apparently they still claim things are under control. Something about the U.S. Seventh fleet (supposedly being moved in to help) was moving it's ships AWAY due to radiation concerns. Reports that a third reactor has the rods exposed and that the seawater thing wasn't working. Mixed messages continue.


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  • Oldienea2 Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:14 AM Reply
    Only for your info:
    The reactor they use in this Japanese nuclear station is a hot water type. It has two enclosures made of thick concrete walls. The plant was allmost shut off when the tsunami came. All Japanese reactors go off the net immediately, when an important eartquake strikes. The radiation around the reactors concened is reported to be higher than the normally allowed level. This will not mean this is a deadly level now. But I'm certain the people who are still working there, are wearing now all the appropriate gear for protection. Japanese experts rate the incident to be a level 4 at moment. International experts guess it might be rather at level 5. The highest level is 7.

    The Chernobyl reactor was a graphite type, without any concrete enclosure around at all. The building was just something like a hangar. It was running at highest level, when it suddenly got out of control. It was running up to about 200 times the output it was made for. All this took just couple of minutes. The operators had barely enough time to realise they actually have a big problem before they died.

    The reactor explosion was very violent, projecting a giant fireball out of uranium and graphite high up to the atmosphere.
    Because of the missing enclosure and the graphite it was burning for about three weeks. Allmost all of the firemen and other helpers that were involved trying to deal with the incident, died in between three days and couple of weeks later. Well, this was called a level 7 incident.

    Please note, this kind of rating describes just the technical grade the incident has. It does not take in account the invironmental consequences of the incident, nor the number of lifes it costs.
    In the early 1969 there was a similar accident in a small experimental plant in Switzerland. No radiation escaped to the invironment, because the reactor was buit deep underground. The people involved managed to escape and nowbody died. This was rated a level 7 incident.

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  • sheepish Top 10 Forum Poster Tuesday, March 15, 2011 5:13 PM Reply
    The present INES level in Japan is 6.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_and_radiation_accidents#List_of_accidents_at_nuclear_power_plants doesn't list an incident for 1969 and the radio news just said Chernobyl was the only 7, as does http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Nuclear_Events_Scale.
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  • sheepish Top 10 Forum Poster Tuesday, March 15, 2011 6:08 PM Reply
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  • Oldienea2 Wednesday, March 16, 2011 1:13 AM Reply
    I'm absolutely not astonished of the fact the incident of Lucens is not rated on this list. Twelve years ago I have been there on a job and somebody was talking about it. Apparently even most people who were living there ever since even before the incident, didn't know anything about it. It seems the informations about it were held back intentionally. Thing easy to do since nothing emerged to the surface.

    Edit
    It took me quite a bit of research. I was allways searching for an english source, but I couldnt' find any INES rating for this incident. Finally I found it in the german Wikipedia. Well, it was rated level 5 not 7 like I sayed before. But still it shows the INES rating is more influenced by the grade of loss of control, or damage to the plant itself during the incident, than by soley it's consequences (fatalities or radiaton escaped).

    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/INES About at midpage


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    post edited by Oldienea2 on 3/16/2011 at 4:41 AM
  • FallenArchangel Top 10 Forum Poster Wednesday, March 16, 2011 1:50 AM Reply
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  • FallenArchangel Top 10 Forum Poster Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:39 PM Reply
    Before and after aerial photos of some of the damage in Japan. Move your mouse left or right over the images to show before and after shots.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/japan-quake-2011/beforeafter.htm

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