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How is this kind of lock picked?

  • tripppp Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:03 AM Reply
    My apartment door has two separate locks, I always use both of them since I know how easy an ordinary apartment lock is picked, especially if using a bump-key.

    The other look has a key that looks very much like this. How is this kind of lock picked?


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  • Catalyst Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:09 AM Reply
    that kind of lock is quite old (as you can imagine) so the locking mechanism wouldnt be too advanced. Im guessing, levers and such that move the bolt from it's position which is locking the door.

    I can't give you any answers from personal experience but your best bet would be to open a lock similar to it up and have a toy around with the insides.

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  • tripppp Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:24 AM Reply
    It's not that old, the key I have is not exaclty like the one on the picture, but it is similar. Here's a pictore of my door's setup (but my "security lock" is above, not below, the regular lock):


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  • frills Top 10 Forum Poster Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:58 AM Reply
    Looks like a warded mortise lock. They don't have pins or a tumbler plug at all, just ward plates arranged either vertically or horizontally. In order to pick them all you need is a single bent piece of metal that will clear the wards and act as a lever on the pin/bolt to push it. Unlike pin tumbler locks, you don't need to find all the correct positions; you only need one.

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  • Catalyst Saturday, October 18, 2008 10:12 PM Reply
    ^-- looks about right

    imo, get a similar one and take a look at the guts. it'll give you a better understanding of the lock.

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  • iWillDX Friday, November 14, 2008 1:20 AM Reply
    Yes, they can be picked, very easily, which is why they usually only have them on interior doors and not doors that need to be secured. Google for the MIT lock guide.
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  • Gozzo Sunday, June 20, 2010 1:56 AM Reply
    In fact they are so easy to bypass you can make a normal key into a skeleton key real quick, but if you dont want to make one then just try this http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.17617
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  • UltraMagnus Monday, October 11, 2010 12:17 PM Reply
    Uh, it could be a mortise lever lock, which is the standard for insurance in the UK.
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  • letmein Sunday, July 31, 2011 7:04 AM Reply
    A single bit of wire won't help here, and nor will the MIT guide. This lock has at least 2 and as many as 7 levers that have to be lifted to the right place, plus fixed wards to block an easy path to them with a wire.

    Is it single or double throw? And what make is it?
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  • tripppp Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:08 AM Reply
    The plates on the inside and outside of the door (there's no knob, just keyholes on both sides) says FAS. On the side of the door there's a metal plate surrounding the locking bar, it says "FAS 309" and "Yale Sweden".

    I don't really know what single or double throw means, but they lock only has 2 modes - open and locked. I can't turn the key another round to make the locking bar extend further.
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